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Quicken and QuickenBillPay stupidity.

When I pay a bill from the QuickenBillPay web site, the check is listed in my Quicken Register. Good.

A few weeks later I download my statement from Bank of America and it appears as "Check #1234". Quicken
sees that this is a duplicate of the entry from QBP. It flags it as a match and tells me to click "accept" if it isn't a match or "cancel" if it is a match. Illogical, but true.

Now I'm left with the check unprocessed. I right-click on it and select "manually match". This brings up a bunch of possible matches including the original entry. I click on it and then "accept". Now I'm told to click "accept" if it isn't a match or "cancel" if it is a match. Illogical, but true.

I click "cancel" and I'm back where I started.

I've been using Quicken for more than 10 years. I don't fucking fucking fucking understand why this hasn't been fixed. WHAT THE FUCK IS SOMEONE SUPPOSED TO DO TO MERGE THE DAMN ITEMS?!?!?

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I actually gave up entirely on downloading my bank info into Quicken because the system was so FUBAR'd. It is as fast to type it all in myself, reconciling as I go, than it is to manually correct the incomprehensible information that I get and deal with potential duplications.

Which is annoying, but I still use Quicken because I love everything ELSE about it. But that right there is annoying.


I do this all the time, and "accept" - for me - is always "i have matched this downloaded transaction with this item in your register, so associate the downloaded transaction with that transaction in the register", at which point the downloaded transaction vanishes, and the register-transaction gets a "c"leared icon added to it (and gets marked as "R"econciled after I click "Done" since I have auto-reconcile turned on).

This is with the current edition of Quicken for Windows, I can't speak for what version you might have, etc.


I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea of an electronic transaction having a "check number". Who generates that check number and what namespace is it in? Does it somehow fit in with the numbered checks in your paper checkbook?

I don't do Quicken but I do use the Internet bill-paying scheme of my bank (Wells Fargo) and there are no check numbers involved nor would I know what to do with them if there were...

I've noticed that check numbers seem to have an interesting namespace. If you re-use check numbers from 6 months ago, everything works fine. Though, I haven't tried anything sooner.

My quickenbillpay.com checks started with #9000. My checks at home started with #001 and are now around 2300ish (though I skipped around when reordering checks).


I just realized that my other bank (Charles Schwab Bank) does use check numbers for electronic payments, and they started with #995001 (!?). I suppose it is useful to have a unique transaction identifier if you use accounting software, so that's probably a good idea. Ideally you would never re-use a check number. There's a published protocol that generates globally unique identifiers for things like transactions, Message-IDs, etc., but that's probably overkill.

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I didn't know MS-Money was being discontinued! I thought it had been doing well for MS. Oh well.

Does mint.com handle investments very well? In particular:
Does it track different stocks and mutual funds (always saying what the current price is)?
Can it show a cost basis of an item?
Does it record the purchase and sell dates (to make it easy to do my taxes)?

Does it let me backup my data? (i.e. download everything to a QFX file?)


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